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Re: Baby steps

Post by ada » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:35

Massimo wrote:
It's true that most of the time and for most of the people, we ask for things in an unconscious way, in a implicit way that we do not understand or perceive, but the fact remains (OK, this is probably beyond the baby steps, therefore Ada don't worry too much about it... :wink: it's just addressed to BeLeZhy's remark).
I belive very much in the power of words. Words can hurt, can make someone happy....but words can also CREATE. Thoughts and words can make your desires touchable. I try everyday to controle my thoughts, to concentrate them on what I REALY want to acheve.

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Massimo » Wed Sep 02, 2009 15:55

ada wrote: I belive very much in the power of words. Words can hurt, can make someone happy....but words can also CREATE. Thoughts and words can make your desires touchable. I try everyday to controle my thoughts, to concentrate them on what I REALY want to acheve.
The question is again (as usual) a very simple but delicate one! :D

It's not very much a question of controlling your thoughts in order to achieve what you REALLY desire, it's more a question of NATURALLY generating those thoughts that are in accordance with what you really are, naturally skipping fears and social, moral, intellectual conditioning...

The "reality" reacts to what you really are, not simply to what your words express: it may be the same thing, and then ok, bingo! But if not, the priority is given to what you really are, independently by your control efforts...

A metaphore may help to understand what I mean: let's say you are an alcoholic, then forcing yourself not to drink will not achieve the result, even though you won't be actually drinking at all (i.e. your control on your words and thoughts will be absolute and perfect). The result will be achieved when you will not have any particular desire of drinking, when you won't need to force yourself, when for you drinking or not drinking alcohol won't be a problem anymore, when you won't be anymore an alcoholic...

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Re: Baby steps

Post by aspie » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:01

The "reality" reacts to what you really are, not simply to what your words express: it may be the same thing, and then ok, bingo! But if not, the priority is given to what you really are, independently by your control efforts...
Massimo,
Then according the this in order to know "what you REALLY are" you need to watch "reality" reaction.
If "reality" reacts to your inside signal/impulse then it means that signal was the "real one...from real you"?
I'm kind of confuse...as we don't really know what "reality" really is
Could you bring more light there, please
Thanks

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Massimo » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:50

aspie wrote: Then according the this in order to know "what you REALLY are" you need to watch "reality" reaction.
If "reality" reacts to your inside signal/impulse then it means that signal was the "real one...from real you"?
I'm kind of confuse...as we don't really know what "reality" really is
Could you bring more light there, please
Thanks
OK, let's start from the beginning: the idea was that of achieving something, it doesn't matter what, and how to do it.

It's clear that, in this respect, the only way of judging if you have achieved or not what you wanted, is comparing the results with your desires and this can only be accomplished in terms of "reality" (as you see, I write the word between apices because it's a simplifcation, but at this level of discussion I would say it is an acceptable simplification). Let's say as an example that you want to recover from an illness: either you recover or you don't, this is the kind of "reality" I was speaking about...

On the other hand, as I was saying in the answer to BeLeZhy, I believe (and I'm not the only one) that we are 100% responsible for the "reality" we get (and this is a very difficult thing to accept, for me one of the most difficult). I actually have the feeling that our "reality" is a projection of what we are, including all of our levels, not only the visible ones... and this tends to complicate the picture...

So, summing up the two things together, we have that our "reality" may change only according to our changes, to change our "reality" we must first of all change ourselves, otherwise our "reality" will remain more or less the same, the changes will be mainly superficial, if any.

But it's also true, unfortunately, that if we change in the "wrong" (apices again! :D ) direction, our "reality" will reflect it, too.

What I was saying therefore is just that it's certainly important to use and master the power of words, but this comes always after being yourself, your true self, after finding out and accepting what you are, what your scopes, your "mission" are.

In any case, as I said from the beginning, this is a simple but very complicated issue :mrgreen: , probably one of the most complicated and most of it is not really rationalizable, is more a question of feeling the truth of it, than of building a kind of perfect equation able to reconcile all the contradictory terms! :D

I cited this already in an italian post some time ago, there is a scene in Matrix that for me is enlightening (and very powerful) and it's the one with the boy and the spoon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKFTzlBziI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo: There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

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Re: Baby steps

Post by coccipao » Wed Sep 02, 2009 21:09

more light there...
really reality or eternally show...
good night

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Skynew » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:25

ada wrote:I try everyday to controle my thoughts, to concentrate them on what I REALY want to acheve.
Speaking about reality and the impact of consciousness on reality, we should not forget about such important things as a target and a movement.

Not only the place can be a target. State (as qualitative and quantitative characteristics, properties), as well as the dynamic state can be a target. The targets are closely linked to the man himself, with those studies and researchs, which he planned in the current incarnation.

If we go on the road on the car, then on the way we encounter many road signs and signals («left», «right», «bypass», etc.). Each step and turn bring new indications and instructions. But we meet them only if the move ... move to the selected target.
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Re: Baby steps

Post by coccipao » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:56

and so... "select your targets"...

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Re: Baby steps

Post by ada » Thu Sep 03, 2009 13:11

Reading Skynew"s post, something came in my mind. CHOICE. When you are on your way through life, moving,you find signs wich say:left,right,straight ahed.....But sometimes is up to us if we go RGHT o LEFT. Wat do we do in those moments? I Think the best thing is to listen the voice inside us, we have to TRUST that voice.....our instinct,our GPS through life. :)
Do you trust your instincs?
I someties have second thoughts about making a decision(and it is normal someties,I think, when it comes to decide something that could affect others),but when the decision is only for me, I try to make peace with my Little voice,and make her my best friend.

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Skynew » Thu Sep 03, 2009 14:42

ada wrote:Do you trust your instincs?
Instinct - basic programs for survival in the physical world.

The inner voice is not an instinct. This voice can point the way like a compass, but leaves freedom of choice.

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Joconde » Thu Sep 03, 2009 22:40

Hi Ada,
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Just a few words from my side in relation to the discussed subjects of spirituality and creation.
I totally agree with what Massimo has said. The concept of creating reality is simple but when it comes to every day life it becomes complicated because this involves us being changed.
If our reality simply is the projection of who we really are, than of course, it is logical that to change the reality we need to change ourselves.
And so, the question becomes how? Of course the whole process of changing includes many things but at this particular moment I'd like to mention just one significantly important thing and this thing is our Believe system, which includes probably all the aspects of our lives, such as how we see ourselves, our relationship, what is prosperity, health and etc. The believe system, in a way, control our lives because it is so deeply embedded in our subconscious mind. Our sub mind is simply programmed.
So, in order to change the reality we need to change our believe system/our perceptions, to get rid of all our limitations and etc, in other words - we need to rewrite the software of our mind.
And this is really not easy. :)
Personally for me this is a really very challenging process. :)

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Massimo » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:33

Joconde wrote:Hi Ada,
So, in order to change the reality we need to change our believe system/our perceptions, to get rid of all our limitations and etc, in other words - we need to rewrite the software of our mind.
And this is really not easy. :)
Personally for me this is a really very challenging process. :)
I totally agree with you and thank you for completing the picture! :D

I think that this process can be approached gradually, starting from the "easy" things (lol), like the beliefs regarding your health, your physical limitations, your economic state and its possible developments, your fears, especially your fears...

I also think that now that we are in this great transition, applying yourself to the process of relinquishing many old beliefs is a perfect way (probably one of the best) to stay tuned and be carried by the wave with as little as possible of sufferings and discomfort.

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Irinushka » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:40

Massimo wrote:
Joconde wrote:Hi Ada,
So, in order to change the reality we need to change our believe system/our perceptions, to get rid of all our limitations and etc, in other words - we need to rewrite the software of our mind.
And this is really not easy. :)
Personally for me this is a really very challenging process. :)
I totally agree with you and thank you for completing the picture! :D
Me too... :D
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Re: Baby steps

Post by coccipao » Fri Sep 04, 2009 13:08

"be carried by the wave"...

I'm on th wave, I'm in the wave, I'm the wave, I'm the sea and the movement itsef...

Thank you for image... so clear..

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Re: Baby steps

Post by Joconde » Sat Sep 05, 2009 21:59

Interesting website:

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Baby steps

Post by ada » Mon Sep 07, 2009 15:35

Hello all!

I know many of you are busy. But I would like you to take some minutes to think about pleasant things. Pleasure,joy, can be found in small things arround you.For example, I like to drink from red cups when I am at home. This simple thing makes me confortable and relaxed(this is just a small example :D ). Small things can make your day easier to go through.
So, what can make you happy? What do your eyes like to watch?
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